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Are the instructions removed now and we should only use PBX Express?

There is the ISO but in cloud we just typically spin up VM and go through CMD process.
 
All of the supported cloud providers either allow you upload the ISO or have a image in their store/marketplace for 3CX. ISO installs are the only supported installs.
 
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They removed the install instructions for cloud installing , so we are forced to use providers we don`t want I want to use a provider of my own choice to install. Ok, it is not supported, but I can live with that.
 
Can you not follow the normal linux install instructions from here? https://www.3cx.com/docs/manual/installing-debian-linux-pbx/

Additionally pretty much any Debian-based linux distribution will run 3CX although the 3CX Debian ISO is by far the easiest way to get it working..

No one is forcing you to do anything. They just might not want to help you if you go outside of what they know well enough to put their name beside.
 
Believe me, I have some expierence with the support desk and : that's not supported ,
is their standard answer .. If we all worked with this behavior , we would lost all our clients ..
About the install part: I can install on Linux, but i always used the intructionpage, so I could copy and paste. But I found out that it is replaced with another one..
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Harry
 
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They removed the install instructions for cloud installing , so we are forced to use providers we don`t want I want to use a provider of my own choice to install. Ok, it is not supported, but I can live with that.
No one is forcing you to use a provider you don't want. Any reasonably sized provider offer the ability to upload your own ISO/image for deployment. Congrats that you could do the manual install successfully. Many couldn't, or did things that 3CX did not forsee which ended up causing problems later. If you are really that savvy in Debian you can figure out how to install manually. They didn't get rid of the repos. But if you can't figure that out, then you should be using the ISO. I used to do all my installs manually, and since day 1 3CX said that this day was coming where manual installs were not going to be supported. That day has come.
 
Hear hear, we found a real 3CX supporter , who is accepting everything from his favorite company ..
It is a great PBX, and it works fine, but the arrogant behavior of the company itself is something I don`t like . If it`s no problem for you , great , but don`t try to force me to have the same opinion ..
 
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Again, no one is forcing you to do anything whether it is using supported installation methods, or having certain opinions. 3CX does things their way. We are free to do them our way, but you have to know what you are doing because 3CX doesn't want to hold your hand.

We need to stay focused on the issue at hand here or I am pretty sure this thread will get locked.
If you don't mind me asking, why are you trying to manually install 3CX as opposed to using the provided ISO?

You said CMD in your OP. Are you using cloud versions of Windows as your PBX?
 
So I'm not sure if english is your primary language, but it feels like something is getting lost in translation. The manual installation method, from day one, was said would likely not be supported. Because of the numerous support issues created by people not knowing how to install it properly or installing it along with other software on the same box, ignoring the directive to not have any other software on the box, likely caused them to speed up this time frame. But at no point is 3CX forcing you to do anything.

- If you previously installed 3CX manually and prefer to continue doing so, you can continue to do so. They simply removed it as a supported configuration and thus they removed the instructions.
- But your issue seemed to be you wanted to use your own cloud provider. They aren't stopping you from doing this. Many cloud providers allow you to upload ISOs to install from. If yours doesn't, ask them if they can do a one-off. Or find a another provider that does. Or just do the manual install on Debian like you were doing before.
- But if you can't figure out how to do the manual install without instructions, then maybe you shouldn't be doing the manual install. It's really that simple. People who know Debian/3CX well enough can generally figure out their own issues.

But yes, in this specific case I accept what 3CX is doing. Why? Because I'm in business to make money, and having things work makes me money. Troubleshooting issues that can be avoided by sticking to a supported path costs me money. But clearly both by your post content as well as your number of posts you don't know me well enough to make that statement. I've called out 3CX many times on the forums for what I felt were poor decisions. And while 3CX is our primary offering and our preferred offering it's not our only offering. No one product fits all customers. But if this change by 3CX makes it not a good fit for you, go find a better one. Otherwise fall in line, keep your support costs down and enjoy making more money.
 
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So I'm not sure if english is your primary language, but it feels like something is getting lost in translation.
No one is getting lost, I gave my opinion and that`s it

If you previously installed 3CX manually and prefer to continue doing so, you can continue to do so. They simply removed it as a supported configuration and thus they removed the instructions.
But your issue seemed to be you wanted to use your own cloud provider. They aren't stopping you from doing this. Many cloud providers allow you to upload ISOs to install from. If yours doesn't, ask them if they can do a one-off. Or find a another provider that does. Or just do the manual install on Debian like you were doing before.
But if you can't figure out how to do the manual install without instructions, then maybe you shouldn't be doing the manual install. It's really that simple. People who know Debian/3CX well enough can generally figure out their own issues.

When installing 3CX trough the portal , there are some options, and I it find strange that there is no options to choose your own provider . (a simple no support message can do the trick )

But yes, in this specific case I accept what 3CX is doing. Why? Because I'm in business to make money, and having things work makes me money. Troubleshooting issues that can be avoided by sticking to a supported path costs me money. But clearly both by your post content as well as your number of posts you don't know me well enough to make that statement. I've called out 3CX many times on the forums for what I felt were poor decisions. And while 3CX is our primary offering and our preferred offering it's not our only offering. No one product fits all customers. But if this change by 3CX makes it not a good fit for you, go find a better one. Otherwise fall in line, keep your support costs down and enjoy making more money.
Interessting, that a number of posts tells you what you want to know about someone ..
(I don`t have lot of issues, and so there are not a lot of posts on my account)


But before this discussion is going to be a catfight ,I made my point and this is my last reaction .
Have nice day , with lots of money , take care and stay safe :)
 
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