Loss of Scheduled Reports on v20 and Update1

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Is there any dates for Update 1 and scheduled reports? When we updated to v20 it looked like Update 1 was going to be late Jan 2024 according to the website and therefore I thought we would have scheduled reports but this seems to have changed.

Is there any approx. date as to when Update 1 will be released?
 
Is there any dates for Update 1 and scheduled reports? When we updated to v20 it looked like Update 1 was going to be late Jan 2024 according to the website and therefore I thought we would have scheduled reports but this seems to have changed.

Is there any approx. date as to when Update 1 will be released?
While we can't provide an exact date for the update, I want to assure you that it's a high priority for 3CX. The good news is that the V20 launch went smoothly, and the team has already shifted their focus to the next update. I would advise you to keep an eye on our blog as it could be released very soon.
 
Scheduled reports now appear to have been dropped in update 1...
 
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It was mentioned that the update could be in Update 1 or 2, so it was decided by the team to work more on this matter and leave it for the next update.
 
@Lee Cramman
It was mentioned that the update could be in Update 1 or 2, so it was decided by the team to work more on this matter and leave it for the next update.
Sorry @OlegR_3CX - I don't usually see the point in disagreeing with 3CX staff but I think you're revising history there.

Apologies for duplicate posting / copy paste below but you've duplicate answered it in the self-hosted forum:

Sorry @OlegR_3CX - I don't usually see the point in disagreeing with 3CX staff but I think you're revising history there.

It was categorically stated that it would be in update 1 in the blog posts for more than one of the RCs, regardless of what might have been said elsewhere. And blog posts seem to be where 3CX would like us to take our direction from.

For example:

https://www.3cx.com/blog/releases/v20-release-candidate-4/

"Note: Do not upgrade if your setup requires Scheduled Reports, this feature will be included in Update 1."

and

https://www.3cx.com/blog/releases/v20-release-candidate-3/

"Note: Do not upgrade yet if your setup requires Scheduled Reports, this feature will be included in Update 1."

and

https://www.3cx.com/blog/releases/v20-release-candidate-2/

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and

https://www.3cx.com/blog/releases/v20-releasecandidate/

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You are not wrong, however, as you can see, the blog post I have provided was the latest, and most updated, where the team did not 100% promise the feature to be in Update 1, but either Update 1 or 2 (the same was in some of the links you mentioned too).
We know that this is the feature everyone is after and waiting for, and we want to ensure we deliver it to you and test it well too.
Kindly be patient as the work is in progress during our conversation.
 
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You are not wrong, however, as you can see, the blog post I have provided was the latest, and most updated, where the team did not 100% promise the feature to be in Update 1, but either Update 1 or 2 (the same was in some of the links you mentioned too).
We know that this is the feature everyone is after and waiting for, and we want to ensure we deliver it to you and test it well too.
Kindly be patient as the work is in progress during our conversation.
Will do @OlegR_3CX, and I look forward to it - I just wish beta / RC / release was handled differently at 3CX, I find it confusing.

It would make more sense if V20 in it's current form had been called a Beta, then I wouldn't even be worrying about this stuff. I would just wait for the full version release assuming all features would be present (reports, hot desk, etc) at that point.
 
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I had a conversation with our development team this morning. The discussion was about whether to release one of our tools now, and get important updates to customers as quickly as possible, or wait until some very complicated changes were complete. As the owner, I ALWAYS advocate for getting updates to customers as quickly as possible in spite of the fact that more frequent releases create a lot of extra work for the QA team, and additional work associated updating installers, manuals, and staff training.

When faced with the choice of getting other important updates to 3CX out now, and pushing scheduled reports to a later release, I will always advocate for more releases rather than fewer. After all, 3CX could have waited to release SP1 until the scheduled reports changes were completed, but what does that accomplish? It wouldn't get you scheduled reports any sooner, but it would allow them to say "see, we got it out with SP1". I don't think that's what is in our best interest.

My suggestion is ALWAYS wait to upgrade 3CX until ALL of your critical features are released and don't count on any tentatively (aspirational) release dates. Writing code ALWAYS takes longer than expected. It's a truth that is burned into my brain after 40+ years of development experience. I have found that if I take my aspirational release date, and multiply it by 4, I get pretty close to reality.
 
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I had a conversation with our development team this morning. The discussion was about whether to release one of our tools now, and get important updates to customers as quickly as possible, or wait until some very complicated changes were complete. As the owner, I ALWAYS advocate for getting updates to customers as quickly as possible in spite of the fact that more frequent releases create a lot of extra work for the QA team, and additional work associated updating installers, manuals, and staff training.

When faced with the choice of getting other important updates to 3CX out now, and pushing scheduled reports to a later release, I will always advocate for more releases rather than fewer. After all, 3CX could have waited to release SP1 until the scheduled reports changes were completed, but what does that accomplish? It wouldn't get you scheduled reports any sooner, but it would allow them to say "see, we got it out with SP1". I don't think that's what is in our best interest.

My suggestion is ALWAYS wait to upgrade 3CX until ALL of your critical features are released and don't count on any tentatively (aspirational) release dates. Writing code ALWAYS takes longer than expected. It's a truth that is burned into my brain after 40+ years of development experience. I have found that if I take my aspirational release date, and multiply it by 4, I get pretty close to reality.

With respect, it's a brave dev that knowingly ships something that removes a critical feature for a large part of the user base with a promise of a later fix without calling it a "beta".

This isn't leaving something as it was instead of updating it - it's removing the feature, saying it will turn up in U1, quietly dropping it from U1, delaying U1, when this is pointed out going back and revising the previous blog posts that said it would be in U1 to remove all mention, and.. finally... including it in U1 after all?

Because it now looks like it's in update 1 which mentions features / fixes as follows:

Update 1 is available for download in production environments.

Hot off the heels of the release candidate, Update 1 is now available for download in production environments. In case you missed the BETA and BETA 2 releases, these are the main features included:

  • Up to 50% faster backup & restore
  • Caller ID exceptions to working hours - guide
  • New Pipedrive CRM Integration - guide
  • Scheduled Reports - guide
For more information on what’s been added to Update 1, read the release notes.

  • Fixed scheduled reports being sent when PBX is in Failover Passive mode
  • Fixed deadlock when initializing service.
  • Fixed ring group statistics export, csv does not contain Total Received & Total Unanswered columns.
  • Fixed scheduled team queue general statistics report.
  • Fixed scheduled reports for last year include wrong results.
They've fixed bugs in U1 for features that weren't even included in the U1 RC and had been pushed to U2.

Confusing? I certainly did a double-take.

Don't get me wrong, this is great news and I am not complaining about having the feature back. It is very much welcome, and thank you to the devs for working hard to make that happen - 3CX should be trumpeting it as a win that users won't have to wait for update 2!

But I do think it would have saved some angst (for me at least) if the versioning / release had been handled a little differently, and I didn't have to pore over blog posts (which are then revised after I've read them) to figure out what features are attached to what releases.

I mean this constructively, and as a suggestion - blurring the lines between blog posts and release notes creates confusion, particularly when those blog posts / release notes are later revised. Keeping them seperate and making new blog posts with any revisions would make life simpler.
 
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Hello, After the upgrade we see no Scheduled reports we made in V18, are they deleted when you upgrade or is there a way to get them back?
 
@Voip - Connectworks Scheduled reports options has been changed as a result, scheduled reports are not there too.
 
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